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The Living Fossils's avatar

Josh from Living Fossils here: Thanks for the excellent post, David. Totally agree that the story we tell about fear of death is BS. My favorite version of this is that we want to have sex as a way to “fight off” death. You can see this in the work of Freud and others. (You can also see in the work of Freud the concept of a “death wish,” which makes even less sense.)

So, I agree that a fear of the concept of death isn’t a prime mover of human behavior. Still, I find that plenty of people are afraid of death, and not of the imminent type. I, for one, am afraid of dying at 100, peacefully in my bed, surrounded by those I love—because then I would lose everything and everyone I love. And cause pain to those I love. Plus, the next step is to become nothing, which I can’t even comprehend. So, I do think death is a scary thought no matter how you go. But it’s not like some underlying motivation that I carry around with me.

Another thing is that when a scimitar is coming for my head, I’m not consciously afraid. I’m afraid before and after. I can anticipate that someone might try to kill me, or reflect that they almost did. But in the moment, I’m too focused on not dying to think too much about it. The anticipation and reflection is what other animals might not have, no?

A final thought is that plenty of people have what is called “unspecific” or “generalized” anxiety. I agree that it’s more adaptive to worry about specific things, but often people just seem to get in an anxious mode, and attach that anxiety to everything. What do we think is going on here?

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Piotr Pachota's avatar

I think that what are brains are hardwired for by the evolutionary process is the fear of imminent death. For most of our lives, ending up in such situation can be only caused by unnatural factors such as accidents, injuries, violence and so on. This helps us avoid danger.

However, when thinking about the inevitability of death, we can only imagine it as inevitability of an imminent death situation. It's a cognitive error. Aging is something that actually saves us from the horror of the imminent death situation by providing a way of slow and steady decline of health until we either don't wake up one day or lose our minds such that even if the imminent death situation occurs, we no longer have any cognitive ability to realize that.

To sum up, death is inevitable, but the dreaded imminent death situation is not.

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